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		<title>Affsum Session: How is Social Media Changing Affiliate Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
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<p>Many of us who are students of this space continue their learning throughout the year and not just at Affiliate Summit.  So it&#8217;s important for people like me to remember that just because I didn&#8217;t really learn anything new from this panel doesn&#8217;t mean there weren&#8217;t some newbies that learned volumes.  I can&#8217;t speak for them, of course.  The panel consisted of:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ted Murphy, Founder/CEO, <a title="Izea" href="http://www.izea.com/" target="_blank">IZEA</a> (Moderator)</li>
<li>Rob Key, CEO, <a title="Google Affiliate Network" href="http://www.google.com/ads/affiliatenetwork/" target="_blank">Converseon</a></li>
<li>Stephanie Agresta, <a title="InternetGeekGirl.com" href="http://www.internetgeekgirl.com/" target="_blank">InternetGeekGirl.com</a></li>
<li>Chris Brogan, VP Strategy &amp; Technology, <a title="CrossTech Media" href="http://crosstechmedia.com/" target="_blank">CrossTech Media</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Hopefully you&#8217;ll learn some more things than I did.</p>
<p><strong>Bullet Point Review!</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>70% of people online last month watched a video.</li>
<li>The top rated websites are the social media networks.</li>
<li>There really are strategies to using social media.</li>
<li>Seeing how the flow of conversation is going is hard to track, but when cross conversational tracking becomes available it will be exciting.</li>
<li>This is a marketing channel just like any other; it can work well with other channels to a brand or company&#8217;s advantage.</li>
<li>Tracking is coming soon&#8230; and will be immensely valuable.</li>
<li>A comment on a blog or a good blog post as social value.</li>
<li>Brands are starting to bring enthusiasts in to help market.</li>
<li><a title="FriendFeed" href="http://FriendFeed.com" target="_blank">FriendFeed</a> could be taken more advantage of by affiliates.
<ul>
<li>It allows for more nuanced opportunities.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Points brought up during the Q&amp;A</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Personally I asked if there were any tools to help manage a social media strategy (knowing slightly that there weren&#8217;t any I knew of) and the answer was &#8220;don&#8217;t get caught up in tools&#8221;.  Fail.</li>
<li>Social media may bring rise to a different kind of content.</li>
<li>There are listening tools like <a title="Radian6" href="http://www.radian6.com/cms/home" target="_blank">Radian6</a>, <a title="BuzzLogic" href="http://www.buzzlogic.com/" target="_blank">BuzzLogic</a>, lots of deep dive listening tools for brands to hear what the conversation is.</li>
<li><a title="Twitter" href="http://Twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a> isn&#8217;t a good place to recruit affiliates but it&#8217;s good for conversions (no real expansion on that was given).</li>
<li>Will we see a change in the code of ethics regarding transparency &amp; disclosure?  Not sure but disclosure breeds trust.</li>
<li>Interesting argument &#8211; more and more people are giving kudos to those that disclose affiliate links however no one in television bothers to disclose even blatant product placements so it&#8217;s a fine line &amp; unresolved argument.</li>
<li>Recognize the conversation AS a conversation &#8211; treating it like a traditional marketing venue doesn&#8217;t work.</li>
<li>Look at social media like a picnic, says Chris Brogan.  Don&#8217;t just run up &amp; start selling your product to people hanging around having a good time.
<ul>
<li>&#8220;Turn your stupid bullhorn into a party hat&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Give something to the social media community before you take &#8211; content + trust (+ conversions).</li>
<li>Try to think just a hair outside your brand.</li>
<li>Conversion rates coming through social media sites are 4 times higher than traditional channels.
<ul>
<li>Note: Since there&#8217;s no standard of tracking it&#8217;s very difficult to isolate this.</li>
<li>The social media forerunners are working on an open wiki to open up discussion on how to isolate.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Many brands are worried about the affiliate channel cannibalizing other in-house channels like search.</li>
<li>It takes a high level of comfort to let go of the brand &amp; get into social media.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s a big education process for merchants before jumping into the pool.
<ul>
<li>&#8220;We&#8217;re really afraid of this because we don&#8217;t want people pooing on the brand&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Listening to the conversations that are out there is the easiest &#8220;gateway drug&#8221; to get companies hooked on wanting to participate.</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re going to disclose your affiliate links, at least do so on your about page and possibly at the end of every post.
<ul>
<li>At IZEA when they decided to make the disclosure banner mandatory, conversions surprisingly went up 20% &#8211; 15% of the clicks were on the &#8220;Sponsored by&#8221; button itself.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Overall it seemed like a lot of the conversation was &#8220;when we get tracking&#8230; ooh boy watch out!&#8221; and tried to steer away from the fact that there is NO real solid way to track any social media &#8220;strategy&#8221;.  I had an interesting conversation with <a title="Wil Reynolds" href="http://www.affiliatesummit.com/wil_reynolds.php" target="_blank">Wil Reynolds</a>, another speaker at Affiliate Summit who is an &#8220;SEO guy&#8221; later in the day about the pannel &#8211; tracking really is the KEY to having companies on larger scales start to really dig into social media.  Without it, they&#8217;re going to go spend their budget on an SEO firm instead of someone who&#8217;s talking to them about Twitter &amp; Facebook.</p>
<p>As I mentioned&#8230; this may not have been the best session for me.  They didn&#8217;t talk much about just HOW social media is changing affiliate marketing, so name fail.  I&#8217;m pretty versed in social media at this point, so a lot of this was the same song &amp; dance &#8211; but I really do hope that somewhere in the room there was a newbie who learned a lot.</p>
<p>So, like I said&#8230; overall, I only learned of a couple of new tools for &#8220;listening to the conversation&#8221; from this and I was actually pretty surprised that they didn&#8217;t mention <a title="Trackur.com" href="/urge/trackur.php" target="_blank">Trackur.com</a>, a really great tool touted as an &#8220;online reputation management&#8221; tool &#8211; really other than the name I can&#8217;t see how it couldn&#8217;t be beneficial for listening in on the online conversation about your brand.  But I hope you learned something from the recap!</p>
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<p>Many of us who are students of this space continue their learning throughout the year and not just at Affiliate Summit.  So it&#8217;s important for people like me to remember that just because I didn&#8217;t really learn anything new from this panel doesn&#8217;t mean there weren&#8217;t some newbies that learned volumes.  I can&#8217;t speak for them, of course.  The panel consisted of:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ted Murphy, Founder/CEO, <a title="Izea" href="http://www.izea.com/" target="_blank">IZEA</a> (Moderator)</li>
<li>Rob Key, CEO, <a title="Google Affiliate Network" href="http://www.google.com/ads/affiliatenetwork/" target="_blank">Converseon</a></li>
<li>Stephanie Agresta, <a title="InternetGeekGirl.com" href="http://www.internetgeekgirl.com/" target="_blank">InternetGeekGirl.com</a></li>
<li>Chris Brogan, VP Strategy &amp; Technology, <a title="CrossTech Media" href="http://crosstechmedia.com/" target="_blank">CrossTech Media</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Hopefully you&#8217;ll learn some more things than I did.</p>
<p><strong>Bullet Point Review!</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>70% of people online last month watched a video.</li>
<li>The top rated websites are the social media networks.</li>
<li>There really are strategies to using social media.</li>
<li>Seeing how the flow of conversation is going is hard to track, but when cross conversational tracking becomes available it will be exciting.</li>
<li>This is a marketing channel just like any other; it can work well with other channels to a brand or company&#8217;s advantage.</li>
<li>Tracking is coming soon&#8230; and will be immensely valuable.</li>
<li>A comment on a blog or a good blog post as social value.</li>
<li>Brands are starting to bring enthusiasts in to help market.</li>
<li><a title="FriendFeed" href="http://FriendFeed.com" target="_blank">FriendFeed</a> could be taken more advantage of by affiliates.
<ul>
<li>It allows for more nuanced opportunities.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Points brought up during the Q&amp;A</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Personally I asked if there were any tools to help manage a social media strategy (knowing slightly that there weren&#8217;t any I knew of) and the answer was &#8220;don&#8217;t get caught up in tools&#8221;.  Fail.</li>
<li>Social media may bring rise to a different kind of content.</li>
<li>There are listening tools like <a title="Radian6" href="http://www.radian6.com/cms/home" target="_blank">Radian6</a>, <a title="BuzzLogic" href="http://www.buzzlogic.com/" target="_blank">BuzzLogic</a>, lots of deep dive listening tools for brands to hear what the conversation is.</li>
<li><a title="Twitter" href="http://Twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a> isn&#8217;t a good place to recruit affiliates but it&#8217;s good for conversions (no real expansion on that was given).</li>
<li>Will we see a change in the code of ethics regarding transparency &amp; disclosure?  Not sure but disclosure breeds trust.</li>
<li>Interesting argument &#8211; more and more people are giving kudos to those that disclose affiliate links however no one in television bothers to disclose even blatant product placements so it&#8217;s a fine line &amp; unresolved argument.</li>
<li>Recognize the conversation AS a conversation &#8211; treating it like a traditional marketing venue doesn&#8217;t work.</li>
<li>Look at social media like a picnic, says Chris Brogan.  Don&#8217;t just run up &amp; start selling your product to people hanging around having a good time.
<ul>
<li>&#8220;Turn your stupid bullhorn into a party hat&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Give something to the social media community before you take &#8211; content + trust (+ conversions).</li>
<li>Try to think just a hair outside your brand.</li>
<li>Conversion rates coming through social media sites are 4 times higher than traditional channels.
<ul>
<li>Note: Since there&#8217;s no standard of tracking it&#8217;s very difficult to isolate this.</li>
<li>The social media forerunners are working on an open wiki to open up discussion on how to isolate.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Many brands are worried about the affiliate channel cannibalizing other in-house channels like search.</li>
<li>It takes a high level of comfort to let go of the brand &amp; get into social media.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s a big education process for merchants before jumping into the pool.
<ul>
<li>&#8220;We&#8217;re really afraid of this because we don&#8217;t want people pooing on the brand&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Listening to the conversations that are out there is the easiest &#8220;gateway drug&#8221; to get companies hooked on wanting to participate.</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re going to disclose your affiliate links, at least do so on your about page and possibly at the end of every post.
<ul>
<li>At IZEA when they decided to make the disclosure banner mandatory, conversions surprisingly went up 20% &#8211; 15% of the clicks were on the &#8220;Sponsored by&#8221; button itself.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Overall it seemed like a lot of the conversation was &#8220;when we get tracking&#8230; ooh boy watch out!&#8221; and tried to steer away from the fact that there is NO real solid way to track any social media &#8220;strategy&#8221;.  I had an interesting conversation with <a title="Wil Reynolds" href="http://www.affiliatesummit.com/wil_reynolds.php" target="_blank">Wil Reynolds</a>, another speaker at Affiliate Summit who is an &#8220;SEO guy&#8221; later in the day about the pannel &#8211; tracking really is the KEY to having companies on larger scales start to really dig into social media.  Without it, they&#8217;re going to go spend their budget on an SEO firm instead of someone who&#8217;s talking to them about Twitter &amp; Facebook.</p>
<p>As I mentioned&#8230; this may not have been the best session for me.  They didn&#8217;t talk much about just HOW social media is changing affiliate marketing, so name fail.  I&#8217;m pretty versed in social media at this point, so a lot of this was the same song &amp; dance &#8211; but I really do hope that somewhere in the room there was a newbie who learned a lot.</p>
<p>So, like I said&#8230; overall, I only learned of a couple of new tools for &#8220;listening to the conversation&#8221; from this and I was actually pretty surprised that they didn&#8217;t mention <a title="Trackur.com" href="/urge/trackur.php" target="_blank">Trackur.com</a>, a really great tool touted as an &#8220;online reputation management&#8221; tool &#8211; really other than the name I can&#8217;t see how it couldn&#8217;t be beneficial for listening in on the online conversation about your brand.  But I hope you learned something from the recap!</p>
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