Affiliate Marketing Fanatics 39: Interviewing Karen Garcia & Wade Tonkin #BWE10 #ASW11
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Affiliate Marketing Fanatics – A couple of hyper-caffeinated affiliate marketers (Mike Buechele) and (Trisha Lyn Fawver) talk about all things Affiliate Marketing. From blogging to branding, social media to search, video and more!
We’re continuing our series of interviews, this time talking to folks involved with Blog World Expo, coming up in a couple of weeks in Las Vegas at Mandalay Bay. Today we talk to Karen Garcia & Wade Tonkin, co-founders at GTO Management and managers of the Blog World Expo affiliate program. We chat casually about what they’re looking forward to about Blog World Expo, and a bit about our proposed panels at Affiliate Summit West 2011 in January. In in this episode we discuss:
- Register for Blog World Expo now! Book your flight & hotel too!
- Vote for Mike & Wade’s Panel Affiliate Improv!
- Vote for Karen & Trisha’s Panel Behind the Curtain of Affiliate Management
- It’s not too late to join & promote the Blog World Expo affiliate program on ShareASale!
- Visit the GTO Management booth at Blog World Expo!
Want to catch up with us & ask questions for the next show? Find us on Twitter: @AMF_Podcast, @MikeBuechele & @TrishaLyn. Like us on Facebook! You can also ask Trisha questions through FormSpring.me. Or leave us a comment!
Read MoreSan Francisco Blog Club Meetup
I’m excited for this! On October 19th, the San Francisco Blog Club will meet for the first time at an art gallery in downtown San Francisco. Everyone interested in blogging, social media marketing, making money off of your blog, improving traffic to your site, search engine optimization and other aspects of making your blog awesome is welcome. Please come! I’ll be there, and there will be informative speakers, lots of friendly people, cool art, fun and socializing. Plus, the first 100 people will receive a free drink, courtesy of the club’s sponsor, VigLink.
San Francisco Blog Club Meetup
111 Minna Gallery (at 2nd Street), San Francisco, CA, (415) 974-1719
Doors open at 6:30. Meeting lasts from 7-10.
The guest speaker on October 19th will be Dana Oshiro. Dana is a verteran of the blogging world and is deeply committed to helping other writers improve their blogs. Dana has written for Mashable.com, ReadWriteWeb.com, TechMediaToday.com and currently blogs for the technology publishing group, NetShelter. Her personal blog is VillagersWithPitchforks.com. She’ll be there to chat, answer questions and share information.
The San Francisco Blog Club was started by the same folks who started the London Blog Club. They have a ton of fun and are going strong. Here’s a photo: http://www.meetup.com/London-Blog-Club/photos/1028876/
If you can’t make this meetup, come to the next one! The San Francisco Blog Club will meet every third Tuesday of the month from here to eternity. Hope to see you there!
To visit San Francisco Blog Club, go here:
http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Blog-Club/
CJU Course: Feed Me: Why a Product Catalog is Just the Beginning
A product catalog feed for the affiliate channel is critical to the financial success of any advertiser’s program, but that’s really just the beginning. We’ll show you why a product feed is important and what a good, optimized feed should look like. Now for the best part: you’ll learn how to take that feed and expand its use across a variety of other channels. This session took place September 22, 2010. The panel consisted of:
- Ashley Parducci, Product Manager, Commission Junction
- Jim Harriman, Technical Lead, Commission Junction
Bullet Point Review!
- 40% of CJ advertisers submit feeds. Out of the 40%, half update the feed daily. 33% have not updated in at least a month, 17% haven’t updated this year. So only 20% submitting feeds on a regular basis.
- What is a product data feed?
- Name
- Price
- Product page URL
- Image URL
- Description
- Category
- And more…
- The CJ feeds can also help you push your feed to comparison shopping engines (CSEs)
- Why?
- Distribution
- Performance
- Publisher Business
- Feeds reduce click-to-purchase and increase conversion. Also increase online exposure with distribution to CSEs (with CJ management help if needed).
- Advertisers generally see a 20% – 25% lift in transactions with an optimized data feed.
- Better to have too much data than too little.
- A good feed has high resolution images, lots of good technical specs in the description, accurate SKUs, and is well written.
- Build a feed!
- Get involved.
- It’ll require your technical teams or a 3rd party.
- A solid feed is worth the time and money.
- CJ advertisers who were live before 2010, but just added their feeds this year:
- 20% performed well.
- 20% had zero products.
- 10% had dummy SKUs.
- 80% didn’t upload changes daily – of that, 45% hadn’t sent any updates in the last month, and 35% hadn’t updated since May 2010.
- Product feeds are tools. Poorly designed tools don’t get the job done and don’t get adopted by publishers.
- Feed optimization:
- Names & descriptions.
- Utilize the fields.
- Make sure you have proper categorization.
- High resolution images.
- Submit fresh feeds.
- Have thorough pricing information (tax charged, sale price, shipping costs, retail price)
- Use tools available (analyze product/sale performance).
- Customer reviews.
- Even if there are no updates, send updates to get distribution to publishers.
Points brought up during the Q&A
Explain high resolution images: An image large enough for publishers to manipulate.
- A content feed requires slight tweaks to what data you put in what fields.
Conclusion
Read MoreCJU Course: If You Only Knew #CJU2010
Advertisers and publishers each have a unique way of “getting the job done” and often times, neither understands what the other needs to succeed. “If they could just see it from my side…” seems to be a frequent plea. Well, now you can! We’re getting together three advertisers, three publishers, one moderator, and audience feedback to cover all the topics you’d always wished you could. This session took place on September 22, 2010. The panel consisted of:
- Jennifer Lovette, Vice President Advertiser Development West, Commission Junction (Moderator)
- Alexis Caldwell, SurfMyAds.com
- Yung Trang, TechBargains.com
- Tony Pantano, imwave
- Cheryl, Intuit
- Shawn Sullivan, Priceline
- Mike Tabasso, Gen3 Marketing
As you can see, I didn’t catch Cheryl’s last name, so I apologize in advance to Cheryl – especially if her name is spelled wrong! Overall this was a great session. It was nice to see both advertisers and publishers tackle the same questions from different sides of the affiliate coin. None of the panelists promoted their sites, they just used examples that were pertinent to points they were trying to make.
Bullet Point Review!
What are some recommendations on the best way to manage offers and tools to generate quality transactions for everyone?
- Focus on improving your conversion rate.
- Make your coupon code box clear & show the savings.
- Have a really clean Add to Cart product page.
- Enable deep linking.
- The most important tool is the communication between advertisers and publishers. What are the things that advertisers need to give publishers to get the best success.
- Networks need to put some initiative into getting one sheets from publishers outlining what they want from advertisers.
- At the end of the day, everyone wants an order placed.
- Use your CJ account reps to make that connection.Ask for feedback from the publisher account reps.
- If I continue to be small and not have tools and resources, how do I get those tools and resources?
- It’s important for advertisers to work with account reps, because it holds more weight if they recommend a program to a publisher instead of a blind pushed offer.
- Rev-share isn’t as important as showing them the economic value.
- At the end of the day, the channel is managed by ROI.
- You have to be open minded because you don’t know where or when you’re going to meet your next big affiliate.
What are some of the challenges you deal with when it comes to advertiser program guidelines and restrictions?
- You have to talk to the publishers to know what is and isn’t acceptable to help develop your terms and conditions. You don’t know what you don’t know.
- This isn’t a playground – we don’t all have to share the ball. We all have to play by the rules, but there are different rules. You have to determine what’s going to best grow your program.
- Mistakes do happen, but reach out because 8 times out of 10 it’s just a miscommunication.
- If you manage a program & login, and you see that your top affiliate is someone you don’t recognize and you have no idea how they got up to the top, chances are they’re probably doing something wrong.
- Sometimes it could be an emerging market with a business model you’ve not encountered, so reach out and ask.
- If you get no response, or a 2 line response that doesn’t make sense, something’s wrong. Don’t be afraid to ditch the bad people even if they’re you’re top sellers.
- Be transparent – merchants aren’t going to take your secret sauce and spread it all over the place.
If you could ask for one and only one simple thing from your partner, what would it be?
- Alexis: An open ear.
- Yung: Landing page conversion.
- Tony: Be open to having a conversation and analyzing your business to achieve your goals.
- Cheryl: Bring new ideas to merchants – they’re open to testing new things & learning.
- Shawn: Reach out & introduce yourself if you’re new.
- Mike: Be my partner.
Points brought up during the Q&A
Why aren’t there more self-service tools for merchants? It’s tricky – making it self-service is really difficult. You don’t necessarily get to determine how the publishers use their real estate on their site. It’s not always what’s in your best interest as an advertiser, it’s what in the combined best interest of the merchant and publisher.
Unfortunately, the conversation was so good amongst the panelists that there wasn’t much time left for questions. But considering how approachable all the panelists made themselves, I think there was probably considerable opportunity for them to be asked questions 1-on-1 instead of in front of the entire audience.
Read MoreSocial Email Marketing: Why are you uniquely prepared for the social onslaught? The Lohan Effect #SMMSF
This presentation took place at the Social Email Marketing event, put on by Influence People with lead sponsor Constant Contact. The conference took place on Friday, September 17, 2010 at the Hotel Nikko in San Francisco, CA. Tyler looked at the similarities and differences between email marketing and social marketing – explaining the lessons you can apply today to translate your email marketing experience into social marketing success.
I really enjoyed the presentation, but unfortunately Tyler spoke a bit fast for me to catch more, so hopefully the presentation is clear enough! The speaker was:
- Tyler Willis, Head of Brand Management, Involver (@TylerWillis)
Bullet Point Review!
- We always focus on ‘what’s changed’ but really successful marketers ask ‘what’s remained consistent’?
- Framework is the same.
- Subscribe -> engage -> convert.
- The key to making great art is all in composition.
- What’s changed?
- Social proof influences your outcomes.
- Mistakes are now public.
- Targets talk back.
- You have to pay attention to a lot more locations.
- You have less space & more options.
- Your messages don’t always get delivered.
- The KPIs are different.
Here’s Tyler’s’ slide presentation:
CJU Course: At Your Service
Unleashing the power of web services can literally change your program. Getting the data you need faster and then customizing it to suit the exact needs of your program or web site—that’s what web services are all about and Commission Junction is the industry leader. Hear real-world examples of clients using the CJ Web Services APIs in all kinds of creative ways to help them run their businesses more efficiently than ever
before. The panel consisted of:
- Bram Roukema, Director, Product Management, Commission Junction (Moderator)
- Adam Viener, imwave
- Michael Khodos, Simply Best Coupons
Bullet Point Review!
- Most APIs in CJ are done in ReST & SOAP (which will be phased out eventually).
- 6 APIs are offered:
- Publishers: Commission details.
- Publishers: Advanced look up
- Publishers: Product search.
- Publishers: Link search.
- Advertisers: Commission details.
- Advertisers: Publisher look up.
- Before APIs, people used feeds. Those took 1 day+, APIs are real-time.
- How to get started:
- Talk to your developers.
- Go to Webservices.cj.com.
- Review the APIs documentation.
- Register for a developer’s key.
- Remember to use ReST, not SOAP.
Points brought up during the Q&A
All APIs are pull; they’re considering using push APIs too so publishers can apply to the programs, etc.
- When a link expires, they still track – they’re just not promoted anymore.